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Pioneer and E.G. White Articles Regarding the 1335 day Prophecy of Daniel 12
Out of the great mass of advent believers in '44, I do not believe you knew of twenty that did not think the days were ended in '44. We will try to show, by-and-by, who have followed sound reason, and who have got "the plain word of God." You say you "know enough of the effect of that theory that teaches the 2300 days are ended." Allow me to tell you that you do not know so much about it as you think you do, or as you will wish you had. You are as much afloat here as you are on the subject of the Sabbath and commandments. That portion who abandoned the idea of the days being ended, of which you boast, are of those that organized and entered the state of the Laodicean church, "neither hot nor cold;" neither in one position nor yet in another; "always learning and never coming to the knowledge of (the present) truth". The ending of the 2300 days was the great burden of the advent teaching in '43 and '44; 'then the sanctuary shall be cleansed." You will have it that this cannot be before the coming of the Lord, and you see he may come at any time; yes, now, by the first of January, as your Bible Advocate states. You have now heard something of the character of this J.Weston. He would have us believe that he was so full of the spirit of the Lord, that God had revealed to him that Jesus would come the 24th of December, or by the 1st of January. All good - we will publish it! What about the 2300 days, Br.W.? Oh, no matter, Jesus is coming now. H.H.Gross has refuted this time, but look at him last spring; the 1335 days must end the 18th day of April, and the resurrection, or they would not end under forty-five years. Well, he confessed that he was wrong in ever believing that they had ended in '44. Come, then, where will they end here? On, somewhere a little while before the 1335 days end in the spring of 1847. Well, time has passed on; out he comes again and says the Lord will come in the spring of 1848. Where will the 2300 and 1335 days end, friend Gross? Can't say - that is, he doesn't say - neither does J.Weston, and he does not correct him for this; it is only because the advent cannot be until spring. And here I will risk an opinion - that there is not a man in the whole advent ranks - (it seems to me that I will not even except you) - that can show that the Lord will come this winter or next spring. H.H.Gross is just as much mistaken in his calculation this coming spring, as he was the last. Now you may go on and call us what it seems to you good, we are confident that you have not got the present truth, neither have you had it since you have followed any thing but "the word of God and sound reason." And this is the main reason why you cannot answer brother Fuller's important questions on THE OPEN BOOK OF REV.10:2 It requires some one that has followed the truth, the present truth, nearer than you have, to reply to such questions, and they as surely involve the days as a cry at midnight brought us to the end of them. Do you not see how you are first blowing hot and then blowing cold? Six weeks ago, you said you knew enough of the effect of that theory that the days are ended. You say "all will see by reading the article, what are Br. F's views." That is, he is one that we have no fellowship for. But, you say, we hope that he and many others may be benefited by a careful and prayerful investigation of some of the many questions he has asked, &c.&c. Now this is the right and only way to investigate. But if some one undertakes to follow your advice by the Scripture, it would not amount to much, for we should expect to see you right out against them, for these that have rejected plain Scripture, connected with experience, as you have, and ridiculed those who had faith in it, have but little hope now, since you have become an editor. We deeply lamented that you should have taken such a course; but we have seen since, that it required something more than common moral courage, for a shepherd to remain with the tried and tempted flock, when he sees that all his fellow shepherds were deserting them. The warnings you have had, have no doubt brought many solemn convictions to yours and their minds, or else we should not find you in this luke-warm state. Yes, you have been faithfully warned by your old, firm friends, not to come out with your Advocate; you have heard their voice, that two were enough to give the light on the doctrine of the advent, and they had hard work to get along. But no, your paper was going to take different ground, in some things! In one respect, it has shown pretty clearly, as the Scriptures fully demonstrate, that "the dead know not any thing;" and allow me here to tell you, if you go on with your no-law-of-God and no-commandment system, and continue to reject the clear fulfillment of prophecy, in our past experience, you will as clearly prove that you know but a very little more. But after all you have said and done, you are following hard on in the track - the same old deep-cut rut, made by your predecessors. Pharoah's host like, the ruts so deep you can neither back nor turn out; but on you drive after them, thinking, no doubt, that you are going to accomplish something for God and his cause. The only way that I can see for you to do that, will be, either to abandon your load, or shift the tongue of your chariot on the opposite end, drive back with all speed, and get into the highway of the Waymarks and high heaps, that you so willfully abandoned more than three years ago.” Joseph Bates, A Vindication of the Seventh-day Sabbath, and the Commandments of God, p 170-171 (p 52-53).
“(Brother Merriam asks question #)2. Do the 1335 days of Dan.xii,12, reach to the end of the wonders, in answer to the question, [verse 6,] How long? &c. What blessing is given to those who wait and come to those days? If they ended in 1844, what is understood by the last verse, Thou shalt rest and stand in thy lot at the end of the days? If the prophetic periods are all ended, in what time are we living now, and how long will it last?"
“Your first question here is, Do the 1335 days of Dan.xii,12 reach to the end of the wonders in verse 6? We answer, they do not. We understand that the same period of time from the cleansing of the Sanctuary in 1844 to the breaking of the little horn without hand in chap.viii, as proved above, will also be found between the 1335 days and the end of the wonders in Dan.xii; because we further show that the 1335 days ended with the 2300 in 1844. When the first angel's message [Rev.vi,7; x,1-6] was given on time from 1840, and finished in 1844, proclaiming the judgment hour cry, and "that there should be time no longer," it was then understood and afterwards seen more clearly that this declaration was in reference to the long periods of time given to Daniel in chap.viii,13; xii,12. For he was expressly told that the vision should "be at the time of the end," and afterwards told to go his way, "for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end." Chap.viii,17; xii,9. So when this time of the end came, the words of the vision that had been sealed, were unsealed, and the book open in the angel's hand declaring with an oath that there should be time no longer. Referring of course to all the time which had been sealed up. The angel symbolizes a body of people giving the message in question.
“Time here cannot mean duration as measured in months and years, for 1000 years are measured after this, and after that Jesus is set on his father David's throne, "and of his kingdom there shall be no end." Therefore the angel could swear to no other time but prophetic time, which was the burden of his message.
“In the typical day of atonement under the first covenant the earthly Sanctuary was cleansed at an appointed time once a year, at which time the lot was cast to obtain blood for a sin-offering which the high priest bore into the most holy place to make an atonement for the transgressions of Israel in all their sins. Thus all Israel were in their lot. In the antitypical day of atonement under the new covenant the time appointed for cleansing the Sanctuary is unto 2300 days. This being the day of atonement to cleanse the whole Israel of God, both the dead and living saints, from all their transgressions in all their sins, it was previously declared to Daniel, "Thou shalt rest and stand in thy lot at the end of the days." This shows most clearly that both of these periods, viz., the 2300 and 1335 days bring all of God's people in their lot, to be cleansed from all, their sins by the precious blood of Christ in the antitypical day of atonement. And when the great High Priest has accomplished the work for them all, even to the last, and the sins of Israel are all blotted out forever, the living saints will surely know (and so will you, Bro. Merriam, if faithful) that "blessed is he that waiteth and cometh to the 1335 days." Daniel stands in his lot with all the righteous dead, that all their sins of ignorance may be blotted out before the resurrection.
“In regard to your question about Daniel's standing in his lot at the end of the days, I refer you to Bro. White's article on that point in the Review, Vol. IX, No. 13.
“Your last question under this head is this, "if the prophetic periods are all ended, in what time are we living now, and how long will it last?"
“Answer. The prophetic periods as you see are all ended, and we are now living in the day of atonement; the finishing, crowning work of God; being addressed by the third angel, declaring "here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the Commandments of God, and the Faith of Jesus." When this message closes the work is done. The mandate will then go forth, "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: he which is righteous, let him be righteous still." We are also living in the Laodicean, the last state of the church, in imminent danger of being spued out of the Saviour's mouth, unless we hastily repent and seek a closer walk with God. We see therefore that it will take every moment of our time to get ready for the auspicious hour that is now dawning. Let us haste then and tarry not in all the plain. God, and Christ, and holy angels are urging us onward. Time was given in the first message. In this last message time is not given, but signs which are unmistakable, showing that we are in the closing scene.” Joseph Bates, Review and Herald, June 4, 1857 (Vol. 10, #5).
“The time times and an half or dividing of time, in Daniel vii and xii, or 1260 years commenced in A. D. 538, where Justinian made his head bishop the pope. These two periods added, ended 1798 when Berthier took away his dominion. This harmonized with the prophecy as saith Daniel vii,26, and xii,7. The 1290 of Daniel xii,11, Eld. H. (Joshua Himes) declared in the "Signs of the Times," commenced in A. D. 508, when Clovis, king of France, with a large army abolished the daily Pagan worship and set up in its place the Roman Catholic religion, or what Daniel calls the abomination that maketh desolate. The same as shown also in chapter xi,31. Then the 1290 were added to the 508 which also ended in 1798. Does not Daniel xii,11, say there are to be 1290 from the time the daily is taken away? Yes; then the foregoing addition is right, and there were no 30 years beyond 1798 to be added anywhere. In verse 12 a blessing is pronounced on those that come to the 1335 years from where the 1290 commence. Here then were 45 years to be added on where the 1290 ended, viz., in 1798; this brought us to 1843. How many times he made his opponents yield the point when he stated that the 70 weeks of Daniel ix, were the beginning of the 2300 years of Daniel viii,14, and that the 25th verse pointed to a commandment or decree that would go forth to begin those years, and how readily he pointed them to Ezra vii,1,7,13; ix,9, and showed them from thence, and from history that that decree went forth in 457 B. C., which number subtracted from 2300 would leave us in 1843 Roman time, 1844 Bible time. Then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
“How like God and the Bible that looked and sounded then! Such harmony with the prophetic numbers made the world tremble. They ended with the mighty cry, "The hour of his judgment is come."” Joseph Bates, Review and Herald, August 7, 1860 (Vol. 16, #12)
“DEAR BRO. WHITE:- We are still among the accountable beings of the world. Shut in as we are, we are trying to live out the truth of the third angel's message. There are truly many trials connected with our daily endeavors to do good to those around us, in presenting the truth to those we hope to benefit. The Timeists are how coming along with additional folly to their theory. They are presenting to the public that the 1335 days end the 19th of next May, and that "Blessed are they that wait and come to that time; for Daniel is to stand in his lot at that time. They contend that the law was abolished at the crucifixion; that the commandments could not be kept as God gave them, therefore Christ nailed them to his cross, and therefore Christ says, A new commandment I give unto you, that you love one another. This course they have to pursue in order to get rid of the third angel's message.
“The angel said to John, If any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city. Rev.xxii,19. Now men have the power to resist the truth; but like Jannes and Jambres their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was. We hope the truth will shortly begin to take effect here. We have done what we could in our unworthy way. There has been no meeting here since last October. We have been almost discouraged, but we have continued to cry to God for help. He is our only help: thanks be to his ever blessed name.” I.D. Cramer, Review and Herald, August 15, 1854 (Vol. 6, #1).
“The Advent chart of 1843, without doubt, was arranged in the order of God's counsel; but perfection of knowledge in understanding all parts of the inspired volume had not then been attained; knowledge is still increasing. It is evident that God saw fit to suffer a mistake in some of the figures on the '43 chart, but for wise purposes hid that mistake until the proper time arrived for the mistake to be developed.
“There was no mistake in the figures given on the chart for the beginning of the 2300 days, there must also of necessity be, and there was, a harmony of the dates of the 1260, the 1290, and the 1335 days with that of the 2300 days. These then were all correct. True there was a mistake in the minds or faith and teaching of Advent believers in dating the commencement of the 2300 days from the first month of 457 B. C., but this mistake was not on the chart. 457 is the true year from which to reckon the 2300 days: 457 and 1843 full years added together make just 2300 full years; hence there was no mistake on the chart in all these figures. And as I understand the time which the angel of Rev.x,5,6, swore should be no longer, included all prophetic time, and that that testimony given, and that most solemn oath was fulfilled in the time of the tenth of the seventh month move 1844, hence I believe that all of the prophetic periods were then ended, and none of them can be extended beyond that point.” Hiram Edson, Review and Herald, January 10, 1856 (Vol. 7, #15).
“Reformation has succeeded reformation, during the 45 years waiting time between the 1290 and the 1335 years. Just call to mind the wonderful outpouring of the Holy Spirit, and the almost unparalleled reformations that swept over the land in the closing scenes of the 1335 days, while the first angel of Rev.xiv,6,7, was giving his message with a loud voice, which contained the healing balm that was capable of healing the breach and confusion of divisions and subdivisions among Protestant religionists; for it did heal all that embraced and lived out its holy truths, and united them in one body. But this healing balm, was by the great body of Protestants rejected, and they were not healed. The 1335 days ended in 1844, and O how sad the change which then came over the great body of Protestant religionists, themselves being judges. Hiram Edson, Review and Herald, January 17, 1857 (Vol. 7, #16).
“Again: it was said to Daniel that he should "rest and stand in his lot at the end of the days," or prophetic periods. I can find none that extend beyond 1844. The periods of 1290 and 1335 days commence at the downfall of Paganism, 508: adding the 1290 years, they carry us to 1798, and 1335 full years would carry us to 1844, the last period. I know of no period that can be so reckoned as to come this side of 1844; so that the time Daniel was to stand in his lot at the end of the days was 1844. The word which is rendered lot, does not signify his redeemed state, but, chance. Daniel should stand his chance. Why? Because his sins had been confessed, and on the day of atonement those sins which have been confessed are opened before-hand to judgment.” J.N. Loughborough, Review and Herald, February 14, 1854 (vol. 5, #4).
“The events which took place in the year 1798, are strong evidence that my calculations of these numbers are correct. Papacy then lost the power to punish heretics with death, and to reign over the kings of the earth. All must agree that Papacy has no temporal power over any kingdom, except the little kingdom of Italy, one of the horns of which the ten are composed. It is very evident, too, that the church is not now in the wilderness, and the time, times and a half of the church in the wilderness were fulfilled when free toleration was given to all religions in Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, &c.; where Bonaparte obtained power and granted free toleration. Also, the two witnesses are not clothed in sackcloth, and the 1260 years are fulfilled. No one can doubt for a moment that the Bible was forbidden to the common people, and forbidden to be translated in any common language, after the orthodox put down the Arian heresy in Italy and the West, by Bellisarius, the general of Justinian's troops, sent into Africa and Italy for the express purpose of suppressing the Arian power, and giving the Church of Rome the pre-eminence over all schismatics. Then was the Bible taken from the common people, and remained in a sackcloth state from A.D. 538 until A.D. 1798, during 1260 years. Here we find the prophetic time of days fulfilled in years, by two ways more. And now it remains to show the end, by Dan.xii.11,12. "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be 1290 days." Paganism taken away A.D. 508; add 1290, makes 1798. "Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the 1335 days: but go thou thy way until the end be, for thou shalt rest and stand in thy lot at the end of the days."
“When will the end of these days be? you may inquire. I answer, 1335 years from taking away the first abomination of the Roman kingdom, A.D. 508, to which add 1335 and it makes A.D. 1843, when Daniel will stand in his lot, and all who have waited for the Lord will be blessed.” William Miller, Millers Works, vol 1, “Views of the Prophecies and Prophetic Chronology”, p 50-51.
“From a farther study of the Scriptures, I concluded that the seven times of Gentile supremacy must commence when the Jews ceased to be an independent nation at the captivity of Manasseh, which the best chronologers assigned to B. C. 677; that the 2300 days commenced with the seventy weeks, which the best chronologers dated from B. C. 457; and that the 1335 days commencing with the taking away of the daily, and the setting up of the abomination that maketh desolate, Dan.xii.11, were to be dated from the setting up of the Papal supremacy, after the taking away of Pagan abominations, and which, according to the best historians I could consult, should be dated from about A. D. 508. Reckoning all these prophetic periods from the several dates assigned by the best chronologers for the events from which they should evidently be reckoned, they all would terminate together, about A. D. 1843.” William Miller, Mr. Miller’s Apology and Defence, “COMMENCEMENT AND TERMINATION OF THE PROPHETIC PERIODS”, p 11.
“VERSE 11. And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days."
“We have here a new prophetic period introduced; namely, 1290 prophetic days, which would denote the same number of literal years. From the reading of the text, some have inferred (though the inference is not a necessary one) that this period begins with the setting up of the abomination of desolation, or the papal power, in 538, and consequently extends to 1828. But while we find nothing in the latter year to mark its termination, we do find evidence in the margin that it begins before the setting up of the papal abomination. The margin reads, "To set up the abomination," etc. With this reading the text would stand thus: "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away to set up [or in order to set up] the abomination that maketh desolate, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days." The daily has already been shown to be, not the daily sacrifice of the Jews, but the daily or continual abomination, that is, paganism. (See on chapter 8:13.) This had to be taken away to prepare the way for the papacy. For the historical events showing how this was accomplished in 508, see on chapter 11:31. We are not told directly to what event these 1290 days reach; but inasmuch as their commencement is marked by a work which takes place to prepare the way for the setting up of the papacy, it would be most natural to conclude that their end would be marked by the cessation of papal supremacy. Counting back, then, 1290 years from 1798, we have the year 508, where it has been shown that paganism was taken away, thirty years before the setting up of the papacy. This period is doubtless given to show the date of the taking away of the daily, and it is the only one which does this. The two periods, therefore, the 1290 and the 1260 days, terminate together in 1798, the one beginning in 538, and the other in 508, thirty years previous.
“VERSE 12. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. 13. But go thou thy way till the end be; for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days."
“Still another prophetic period is here introduced denoting 1335 years. The testimony concerning this period, like that which pertains to the 1290 years, is very meager. Can we tell when this period begins and ends? The only clue we have to the solution of this question, is the fact that it is spoken of in immediate connection with the 1290 years, which commenced, as shown above, in 508. From that point there shall be, says the prophet, 1290 days. And the very next sentence reads, "Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the 1335 days." From what point? - From the same point, undoubtedly, as that from which the 1290 date; namely, 508. Unless they are to be reckoned from this point, it is impossible to locate them, and they must be excepted from the prophecy of Daniel when we apply to it the words of Christ, "Whoso readeth, let him understand." Matt.24:15. From this point they would extend to 1843; for 1335 added to 508 make 1843. Commencing in the spring of the former year, they ended in the spring of the latter.
“But how can it be that they have ended, it may be asked, since at the end of these days Daniel stands in his lot, which is by some supposed to refer to his resurrection from the dead? This question is founded on a misapprehension in two respects: First, that the days at the end of which Daniel stands in his lot are the 1335 days; and, secondly, that the standing of Daniel in his lot is his resurrection, which also cannot be sustained. The only thing promised at the end of the 1335 days is a blessing unto those who wait and come to that time; that is, those who are then living. What is this blessing? Looking at the year 1843, when these years expired, what do we behold? - We see a remarkable fulfilment of prophecy in the great proclamation of the second coming of Christ. Forty-five years before this, the time of the end commenced, the book was unsealed, and light began to increase. About the year 1843, there was a grand culmination of all the light that had been shed on prophetic subjects up to that time. The proclamation went forth in power. The new and stirring doctrine of the setting up of the kingdom of God, shook the world. New life was imparted to the true disciples of Christ. The unbelieving were condemned, the churches were tested, and a spirit of revival was awakened which has had no parallel since.
“Was this the blessing? Listen to the Saviour's words: "Blessed are your eyes," said he to his disciples, "for they see; and your ears, for they hear." Matt.13:16. And again he told his followers that prophets and kings had desired to see the things which they saw, and had not seen them. But "blessed," said he to them, "are the eyes which see the things that ye see." Luke10:23,24. If a new and glorious truth was a blessing in the days of Christ to those who received it, why was it not equally so in A.D.1843?” Uriah Smith, Daniel and Revelation, p 341-343.
Ellen G. White
"I have seen that the 1843 chart (which placed the 1335 days as ending in 1843) was directed by the hand of the Lord, and that it should not be altered; that the figures were as he wanted them; that His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until His hand was removed....Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test." Early Writings, p 74-75.
"We told him [Brother H] of some of his errors in the past, that the 1335 days were ended, and numerous [other] errors of his." Manuscript Releases, vol 5, p 203 (Letter 28, November 7,1850: To "The Church in Brother Hastings' House").
“The day and hour of Christ's second coming are not revealed in the Scriptures. Neither is the year in which this glorious event is to take place pointed out. No one of the prophetic periods reaches to the second coming of Christ. The sanctuary is to be cleansed at the end of the 2300 days, and Daniel is to stand in his lot at at the end of the 1335 days. But that these events occur before the second appearing of Christ, is susceptible of the clearest proof. Both these prophetic periods terminated in 1844.” James White, The Second Coming of Christ, p 62.
“The view that the 1335 days extend to the resurrection we do not endorse. - ED. REVIEW.” James White, Review and Herald, January 31, 1856 (Vol. 7, #18).
“In the great day of atonement for the blotting out of the sins of all of every age, the cases of patriarchs and prophets, and sleeping saints of all past ages will come up in judgment, the books will be opened, and they will be judged according to the things written in the books. It is thus, at the end of the 1335 days, [Dan.xii,13,] that DANIEL STANDS IN HIS LOT.
“The first and second definitions of the word lot, as given by Webster, are, 1. "That which in human speech, is called chance, hazard, fortune, but, in strictness of language, is the determination of Providence; as, the land shall be divided by lot. 2. That by which the fate or portion of one is determined; that by which an event is committed to chance, that is, to the determination of Providence; as, to cast lots; to draw lots."
“By reference to the Englishman's Hebrew Concordance, we find that the Hebrew word from which lot in Dan.xii,13 is translated, is "goh-rakl" This word occurs, and is translated lot, seventy-five times in the Old Testament, besides Dan.xii,13. That the reader may be able to determine the signification of the word, we will give the seventy-six instances of its use.
“Lev.xvi,8. Aaron shall cast lots. One lot for the Lord, and the other lot for the scape-goat.
“9. upon which the Lord's lot fell.
“10. on which the lot fell.
“Num.xxvi.55. the land shall be divided by lot.
“56. according to the lot shall the possession of the land be divided. See also Num.xxxiii,54; xxxiv,13; xxxvi,2,3; Josh.xiv,2; xv,1; xvi,1; xvii,1,14,17; xviii,6, 8, 10, 11; xix,1, 10, 17, 24, 32, 40, 51; xxi,4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 20, 40; Jud.i,3; xx,9; 1Chron.vi,54, 61, 63, 65; xxiv,5, 7, 31; xxv,8, 9; xxvi,13, 14; Neh.x,34; xi,1; Est.iii,7; ix,24; Ps.xvi,5; xxii,18; cxxv,3; Prov.i,14; xvi,33; xviii,18; Isa.xvii,14; xxxiv,17; lvii,6; Jer.xii,25; Eze.xxiv,6; Dan.xii,13; Joel iii,3; Obad. 11; Jonah i,7; Micah ii,5; Nah.iii,10.
“There is another word [gheh-vel] which is translated "region," "country," "lot of inheritance," &c., as in Deut.iii,4, 13, 14; xxxii,9; Josh.xvii,5, 14; xix,9, 29.
“It will now be seen that Daniel does not stand in the "lot of his inheritance," as it has been expressed, at the end of the 1335 days, but he stands in his lot in the decisions of the judgment of the righteous dead.
“When did those days end? Evidences are conclusive that the 1335 days ended with the 2300, with the Midnight Cry in 1844. Then the angel [Rev.x,1-6] swore that time should be no longer. Time here cannot mean duration, as measured in months and years, for 1000 years are measured after this; but it must refer to prophetic time, which was the burden of the angel's message. As Daniel was to stand in his lot at the end of the days, we must conclude that the judgment of the righteous dead commenced at that time, and has been progressing more than twelve years.
“When will the cases of the living saints pass in review in the investigative judgment of the house of God? This is a question worthy the candid and most solemn consideration of all who have a case pending in the court of heaven, and hope to overcome. In the order of heaven, we must look for their judgment to follow that of the dead, and to occur near the close of their probation.” James White, Review and Herald, January 29, 1857 (Vol. 9, #13)
“[To Correspondent.] H. C. Crumb. We do not know of any other date that can be assigned for the commencement of the 1290 years but 508 where the Abomination of Desolation was "set up." Thirty years later, A. D. 538, the saints, times and laws, were given into his hands, which marks the commencement of the 1290 years. The two periods end together in 1798. The 1335 years evidently commence at the same time with the 1290. No prophetic period can extend beyond 1844, if the first angel's message be correct; for he solemnly swears that time (and he must have exclusive reference to prophetic time) shall be no longer.” James White, Review and Herald, October 27, 1859 (Vol. 14, #23).